heroic law enforcement officers. as congressman bennie thompson said, a man of honor himself eloquently said about these officers, he said "you held the line that day and what was on the line was our democracy and history will remember your names." history will remember your names. they'll remember your courage, they'll remember your bravery. they'll remember your extraordinary commitments to your fellow americans. it's not hyperbole. it's a fact. it's a fact. folks, history will also remember your instincts to respond to do something as you did. as we all watched, all america watched it. watched it on television and saw it repeated and repeated. the past months we've heard you testify to the nation about what happened that day.

what you were thinking of at the time it was happening, what you're thinking now, the threats, the violence, the savageness of what happened. the trauma. all real. it's not exaggeration to say america owes you, owes you all. i really mean this. a debt a debt of gratitude. one we can never fully repay unless we live up to what you did. what you did was truly consequential, not a joke. if i can halt for a second and say to you, the impact, what happened, on july 6 had international repercussions beyond what i think any of you can fully understand. the first meeting i had of what they called the g-7, the seven leading economies in the world,

democracies, i sat down. it was in february. it was in england. i sat next to the president of france a cross from the chancellor of germany, et cetera and i said "america's back." you know what the response was? not a joke. for how long? for how long? i just sat there, lookeded and i believe it was the prime minister of italy said, i can't remember for certain said it, what would you think, mr. president, if tomorrow you woke up and you had a headline in the press saying that the british parliament, a mob had come down the hall, broken down the doors of the house of commons, police officers were killed or died. the place was vandalized in order to overthrow the election

of the speaker of the house. a prime minister's election. think about it. think about it. what we think if we heard that news today, any leading democracy in the world went through this. so folks, these people and the people representing those that couldn't be here because they gave their lives for this did is incredibly consequential. that's not political talk. it's historical fact. also, daniel hodges, metropolitan police department. virginia national guardsman. eight years, eight years on the beat. his first time inside the capitol was january 6. sprayed with poison, pinned and crushed, eye almost gouged out.

he didn't break. after it was over, he was asked what he had been fighting for. a local guy. a ordinarily american. he gave a simple straightforward answer. what were you fighting for? his answer was democracy. that's what he knew he was fighting for. he wasn't a scholar. he wasn't a historian. he was a red-blooded american fighting for democracy. former metropolitan police officer, michael fenone. i've come to know him more. 20 years on the job. veterans narcotic investigator. at a moment of crisis, he was asked to do undercover work elsewhere. he answered the crisis call of our nation at the capitol.

you answered, michael. you always did. he was beaten. beaten. not pushed around, beaten. he was tazed. called a traitor as the mob shouted, if you remember, "kill him" with his own gun. "kill him with his own gun." he defended our democracy. with absolute courage and ever since he's spoken out forcefully to make sure people are held accountable because he knows it could happen again. there's no guarantees. except us. all of you. private first class harry dunn from the united states capitol police. 14 years on the force. on that day, he was outside speaker pelosi's office. he stood guard protecting fellow officers that were already

injured. he was fighting back insurrectionists while be called violent racist names. his own congressman, jamie raskin, couldn't be here today as he covers from cancer treatments. he called me, wanted me to say the following. i wrote it down. officer harry dunn acted with courage and valor to defend our institutions and our people. he went on to say generations to come will think of him and these officers and thank them for their service. officer carroll edwards, five years on the force. u.s. capitol police. on the front lines of the mop's first surge, she stood there. she said, and i hope i'm correctly quoting you, you said it looked like a movie.

sometimes in crisis things like surreal. looked like a movie. knocked unconscious with traumatic brain injury. she got back up to help hold the line. the granddaughter of two proud military veterans. she said it was her job to protect america's symbol of democracy. that building. akino. thank you, pal. glad you know your name. [laughter] he can called me president biden from now on if he wants. a proud immigrant from the

dominican republic. 16 years in the force. like my son, an iraqi war veteran with the united states military, the united states army who described january since as something from a med evil battle. trying to keep insurrectionists from entering the tunnel on the lowest west terrace as he got bunched, blinded with a laser, speared with an american flagpole with an american flag on it. the flag he swore to defend. he stood tall in the breach with a deep and abiding love demonstrated for his country. officer eugene goodman, an army veteran that put himself at risk as a rifle squad leader conducting combat patrols to identify explosives in baghdad. he came home to guard the u.s. capitol for the last 15 years.

on january 6, he risked his own safety to distract a charging group of insurrectionists. he said his duty is to serve and protect. he said that day that he was protecting. he did. he protected. on that day, more than 140 law enforcement officials suffered physical injuries. i'm told numbers are suffering from psychological toll of that day as well. psd doesn't only occur in a military battlefield. others are gone forever. i said earlier, if i can hold a minute here, i said earlier, you know, for those that lost someone on that day, their proud as a devil that their kin are

being honored. but boy, is it hard. i know how proud i am when my son, beau, is honored on an anniversary of his death as a consequence of burn pits in iraq. but it brings everything back like it happened that moment. all the families here that lost someone, my heart aches for you. i want to thank you for having the courage to be here today. so the rest of america can know what your kin did. including capitol police officer -- >> martha: president biden at the white house on the second anniversary of january 6, honoring those that defended the capitol on that day. he is wrapped up those remarks. we will continue the keep a close eye on the white house. we're also, of course, watching the breaking news as the big moves that happened today in the long battle for speaker of the

house. it is apparently going to go on a little longer today and we'll be watching it live on "the story." kevin mccarthy flipped more than a dozen votes today, including some of his most fierce opponents. you can see the numbers there. 214 mccarthy, 2012 for jeffries right now. those who changed their vote today very significantly include the house freedom caucus chair, scott perry, who was leading the fight against mccarthy. he will join us in a moment with what concessions were agreed to and why we're seeing this change of heart and vote from some of the members of the freedom caucus and find out what this means. first, let's get caught up on the news and where we stand right now. chad pergram joining us live on capitol hit. hi, chad. >> we're waiting for the clerk of the house to announce the official total and then we think they will go to a 14th ballot even though they don't have the votes here yet.

there's four holdouts here. at some point kevin mccarthy will have to probably flip one of those four. here's the four. eli crane, a freshman-elect from arizona, matt rosendale from montana, we also have lauren boebert and matt gaetz. so those are the four. he has to flip at least one, maybe two of them. it's always going to determine and hinge on how many people cast ballots. at one point, you had the democrat from maryland that was out. so that lowered the number. there's two republicans that are out right now, westly hunt. he's out. his wife just had a baby. you have a medical condition with ken buck of colorado who left yesterday. he told me yesterday he would be back today. and there's a scenario where that number is always going to change. i've talked about this being the math. i have talked about this being the algebra. this is also about this being the alkme. that number will always change you can see if wesley hunt and

ken buck come back, the total number of members casting the house increases and takes it up to 434. in that case, kevin mccarthy would need 217. so he's down lower than that. in that case he would need to flip more than one or two. you can see how challenging this is for kevin mccarthy and what this portends is how tough it will be the next two years when republicans have control of the house of representatives and trying to govern. one thing i should note are some of the concessions that kevin mccarthy made. one thing we might see is a real effort to cut defense spending. the biggest part of discretionary spending that congress appropriates each year. it's about 55% of all money that comes out of capitol hill. goes towards the pentagon there. you can see a coalition of anti-interventionist republicans and maybe some dovish democrats. probably wouldn't get through the senate. that said, it was important today that kevin mccarthy

demonstrated progress. andy harris, a republican of maryland switched. we don't think that we're going to get this wrapped up today. i was told the chances of that are very low. but maybe sometime over the weekend. back to you. >> martha: thanks, chad. chad pergram on this throughout the entire process. we haven't seen anything like this in a very long time in terms of how this is playing out. 44 rounds is the last record for how long it took. that was in 1859. we did see some dramatic moments on the house floor today. one of those is when the head of the freedom caucus who had been the leading the coalition changed his vote to support him. watch this. >> perry. >> mccarthy. [cheers & applause] >> martha: you can see the enthusiasm from mccarthy's allies. scott perry joins me now.

thank you very much, sir, for being with us. why did you change your vote today? >> look, i wouldn't say we've been against mccarthy. i have known kevin mccarthy since we were young republicans together. it's been a long road for me. i started this conversation last summer. it's about changing the way things are done in congress. the status quo doesn't work for the american citizens. i saw potentially that this moment was going to come where the margins were going to be tight. i will tell you the status quo is reluctant to change everything. everything is working great for washington d.c. but washington d.c. is not working well for the american people. in the summertime, i started and said to the leader, we have to change things around here. with all honesty, there wasn't a lot of interest in that conversation. there wasn't interest in the fall when i continued to go back. where interest started to become evident is the day after the november election. even so, it was very slow going.

it takes pressure sometimes to make the difficult changes that need to be made. >> martha: if i may, sir, tell me exactly what the concessions are as you understand them. are you at a one-vote threshold to force a vote to keep or lose the speaker if indeed kevin mccarthy is that person? >> yeah, we are now at the one vote threshold that thomas jefferson envisioned that lasted for 200 years that didn't change until nancy pelosi changed it. it allows any single member of the entire chamber for the purposes of accountability to make a motion to vacate the chair. it still requires a majority to vote that way. every single member should have that right. the speaker is the most important and the most powerful person in the building. there needs to be an accountability unlike any other. not only to the american people but to the members of this body. >> martha: so you obviously as

the chair of the house freedom caucus had sway, some persuasive power over some of these other members. we heard the numbers of those, this is not going to go kevin mccarthy's way yet. we're going to wait for this next round of voting to get underway. he's at 214 right now. he needs to be 216, 217, 218. you still have eli rain, rosendale, boebert and gaetz. which of those individuals might peel off? >> i'm not going to speak for them other than they're my friends, their patriots and their cause is just. we have a frame work of an agreement that we've gotten to. when you get what you ask for, you should say yes. if there's something that is missing that can get them to the point of agreement, if there's something that concerns them, we want to hear about it. i want to hear about it. >> martha: what do you think the sticking points are with these individuals at this point? they seem very dug in.

>> one of the problems, there's a trust issue here. the arrangement that we've kind of come to, the frame work is one that kind of doesn't rely on trust as much as in the past. we shouldn't be reliant on the trust of one person to get things done. that is the frame work that is set up. if it's not enough, i get it. let's find out what is. i don't know individually what their issues are, but you can bet i'm going to ask. >> martha: are you having conversations with these individuals and do you believe that when this process is over, kevin mccarthy will be the speaker? >> well, it sure looks like he's headed that way right now based on the frame work and good faith. that's what works for me. look, if this frame work goes -- gets blown up, i'm out. i have to start over again. that's what worked for me. every individual is different. their districts are different, the constituent concerns are different. i respect that. i'm absolutely talking to them

and i've been talking to them. as you can see, once the dam breaks and you get what you're asking for on behalf of your country, then it works. i will tell you this. having been in the negotiations, not one individual has asked for anything for themselves. >> martha: the six voted for jim jordan who says he doesn't want to be the speaker. he doesn't want his name in the running here. do you expect or could it be some of these individuals vote present and the number is lowered and -- how would that work? how does that play out? >> that's always the potential with division. once one changes, it impacts the other one. a couple didn't ways the math could go here. if you're dead set to voting no, you won't get there. there's some folks here that don't want kevin mccarthy to be the speaker. we understand that. the question is, are they going to show up every day and are they going to register that vote

every time? i don't know yet. only time will tell. again, just like i have since the summertime, i'm going to continue to negotiate in good faith for what i think is best for the american people on what i do think is best is the frame work that we have that really radically changes how things are done so we don't get these midnight, 2:00 a.m., 4,000 pages, 1.7 trillion bills jammed down our throat. that's one of the big things that -- >> martha: there's no doubt that there's a lot of disgruntlement over this omnibus. that might be too nice a word for it. that a lot of people don't want to see that happen again. what is your understanding of where this is going? we're hearing there's about to be a vote for adjournment of 10:00 p.m. can you give us a sense of what to expect? >> i can't. i'm not in the room right now. i imagine there will be more conversations. again, what is missing, what can we do to suede your concerns or concerns of your constituents before we come back for a vote

at 10:00 p.m. who knows what will happen at 10:00 p.m. you have to be willing. if you're a member of congress, you're elected by your representatives not to come with your personal feelings. we like the sausage. sometimes we don't like seeing how it's made. for the concerns of the country, your district, that's what you have to be focused on. >> martha: i'll tell you one thing, people have gotten to know about congress and coming to feel things differently. it has shed a lot of light on the sausage making and people may understand it better. thanks, representative perry. they're about to do the final count on the floor here for the 13th round. and we will get the tally -- guys, maybe you can tell me if the clerk has read the numbers or about to. >> the honorable jim jordan from the state of ohio has received six. no member elect having received the majority of the votes cast,

a speaker has not been elected. for what purpose does the gentleman from louisiana rise? >> madam clerk with great appreciation for the job that you and your staff have been doing -- [applause] i move that the house stand adjourned until 10:00 p.m. tonight. >> the question occurs on the motion of the gentleman from louisiana. those in favor say aye. those opposed say no. and the opinion -- and the opinion of the chair the nos

have it. >> i request the yays and nays. >> the yays and nays are requested. those favoring a vote by the yays and nays will rise. a sufficient enough hasn't risen. the yays and nays are ordered. members will record their votes by electronic device. >> martha: okay. so now the battle is whether or not to adjourn until 10:00 p.m. you heard some opposition to that. some people want to keep going. many of the house democrats i should mention stayed in the room and did not go to attend the january 6th ceremony that the president was holding in the east room of the white house because they didn't want the present number to drop to a level where mccarthy could win at 2014. that's how that has played out in part this afternoon. with that, we want to bring in ari fleischer, fox news contributor.

also sean davis, ceo and co-founder of the federalist. great to have you with us today, gentleman. ari, let's go to you first. we saw the log jam break toward kevin mccarthy today. today was a significant afternoon. how do you see this going from here? >> well, first, you have to love the yays and nays. it's a shouting contest. it's fun. yesterday i made the analogy being a northeasterner that this is like watching a car stuck in the snow. if you step on the gas, the only thing that happens is the wheels go round and round. didn't matter whether kevin mccarthy was driving or jim jordan. didn't matter who the driver was. the wheels were spinning and the car wasn't moving. today as any good northeasterner knows, they got traction in the snow. kevin mccarthy was able the rock the car. get a forward, backward. now the car is starting to move. that's the significance of the number of members that broke towards kevin mccarthy today. he's still stuck. that is his fundamental problem

about how to move the remaining six votes or to have the democrats be busy somehow so the threshold drops. >> martha: sometimes if you put a pizza box under the door, can it get some traction. >> kitty litter. >> martha: cardboard. sean, what is your take on where this stands and what are we learning from this and where is it going? >> i think we've learned something really important. that when you get all of these people in the room together and force them to do work, they have to get it done. there's been complaining about the chaos and gridlock, this is how democracy is supposed to look. we were told that democracy was on the ballot. this is democracy here. this is how the founders designed it. i think it's fantastic to see these people on the floor, working stuff out, out in the open. that's something that we haven't seen for years. it's been four or five years since an amendment has ever been offered on the floor of the house because rules that were put in place by pelosi.

we're seeing progress. the progress is good. i imagine in the next couple days or a week we'll finally see a resolution. this is how the process is supposed to work and i think it's great to see it happening on our screens every day in front of us. that's what the founders wanted. >> martha: feels like we're getting closer. the other hand, the people undecided at this point are for jordan. they don't seem like they're budging anywhere. feels like we've peeled off the votes that looked like they were peelable at this point, ari. where do you see this going now? >> i have no idea. this is old fashioned closed doors, what can they agree to. let me talk about one of the substantive demands. this is a good again. never have a big omnibus spending bill like what was just done. i remember being on your show when it was passed. it's a sign of how broken congress is. here's why it's broken. it has nothing to do with the speaker or the leadership. rank and file controls this. they have to do their jobs. they need to pass appropriation

bills and do it on time. both parties, that's broken down over the last couple decades. i remember being on capitol hill when people passed their bills on team. >> martha: hold on one second. kevin mccarthy is speaking. >> just reminds me of what my father always told me. it's not how you start. we have to finish for the american public. >> what was the breaking point in these negotiations? >> i think getting together and just finding the ability to how we are going to work together. it's new for un. one being in the majority and a tight majority. at the end of the day, we'll be more effective, more efficient and definitely government will be more accountable. >> how do you expect to govern this way? it's taken this long -- >> see, this is the great part. because it took this long, now we learned how to govern. how we'll be able to get the job done. thank you all very much.

>> martha: brief comments there from kevin mccarthy. saying that a lot has been learned in this process. you know, it's interesting, sean. one of the things in this is a potential agreement to stick to the 2022 defense spending bill and you're seeing a bit of coalition between dovish democrats and noninterventionists republicans on this. how significant is that part of what looks to be part of this agreement? >> i think that's extremely significant when you look at what ari was talking about. the breakdown in the budget process. this is putting in to writing some really hard and fast caps on what spending can be and how spending has to be done. he's right. it used to be that the senate would pass individual appropriations bills, the house would pass them and come together in conference and work through amendments together. that has devolved the past 12,

20 years. there was no real amendment or opportunity to debate on the floor. i think the fact that they are coming to an agreement on something like budget caps and budget numbers is very significant. i think the closer we get to that where both houses have to pass their own bills on time together and then every one works it out, that's how the progress should work. >> martha: you're responding to that, ari. it strikes me if you want to raise or cap defense spending, you might have to cut some spending from some other places, which is something that we never hear anything about from members of congress. >> my problem with this, this is pa back room process. this didn't come out of the house budget committee where it was debated openly, what should defend spending get passed on the floor. this is a back room spending process. somebody went in to the room to get votes and they said let's keep defense locked in at the 2022 levels. that's not the way it should be. if you want to empower

individual legislators, you have go through committees. put it on the floor and give everybody a vote. so i don't see that as an answer. these issues about balance the budget over ten years, absolutely. let's try to do it. but you have to do it in the open and doing with the way the public can watch it all. they want to be transformation able. i'll speak truth to lack of power. you won't do that with a five-vote majority in the house, especially one behaves this way. you have to be realistic. they cannot pass these massive changes in america with a 5-vote margin in the house and lack of control. i'm going to speak truth to lack of hower. the transformational caucus is going to grind everything to be a halt and be unsuccessful. >> martha: it's going to be fascinating to watch. they still don't have the votes for kevin mccarthy. it's much closer than it was. so we'll see where in goes. whether they can get an

adjournment agreement is the first order here. thanks very much, gentlemen. great to see you, sean davis and ari fleischer. thank you. so there is another -- there's several huge stories that are going on right now. we're learning brand new details about the burning questions that surround the murders of four college friends, four university of idaho students that were slaughtered in their beds in the middle of the night. police have not revealed a motive as they continue to work on that. they say that phone records show that the suspect had apparently been near the victims' homes according to cell phone pings a dozen times over the course of the months that led to these killings. "records show the phone utilizing cellular resources that provide coverage to the area of 1122 king road on 12 occasions prior to november 13, 2022, all of these occasions except for one occurred in the

late evening and early morning hours of their respective days." lawrence jones live in moscow, idaho and judge jeanine pirro is here with me in new york with her take on all of this. but first to jonathan hunt who reports live for us from moscow today. hi, jonathan. >> hey, martha. we got a lot of detail that we shared with you yesterday at this time, of course, from the newly released affidavit. there's some questions emerging from that affidavit. for instance, we got the detail yesterday that at the time of the murders, one of the surviving roommates saw a man dressed in black wearing a mask, walking towards her through the house. she hurriedly retreated into her bedroom as you imagine terrified presumably. she locked the door and the man left the house. now, that was just after

4:00 a.m. when police say bryan kohberger committed the four brutal murders. it wasn't until 11:58 a.m. on november 13, that the 911 call was made. so what was going on in that house for those intervening eight hours. now, the video you're looking at right now though relates to another question. that is -- we've recreated here the root that the white hyundai elantra registered to kohberger took police say in the minutes after the murders took place a route back towards his home, not far away in pullman, washington. why did he take that route? what happened to the black clothes that the alleged killer was wearing. the murder weapon, the knife. police have not told us that they found that as of yet. we assume that is still missing. did he take that route so that

he had time to hide or to dispose of those items, the clothing and the knife. so police may already have the answers to some of those questions. but they're not telling us. as we have seen from this first affidavit, martha, they are very willing here to work quietly, very effectively. they don't necessarily feel any pressure, any need to share anything with the public until they are ready to do so. so they're still building their case. in the meantime, bryan kohberger, who made that first court appearance yesterday remains in the county jail behind me here. martha? >> so erie, these details. judge jeanine pirro joins us, co host of "the five." we learned a lot in this affidavit and it raised a lot of questions. one of the things we talked about today are the hours between which the roommate saw him and when the call was placed

to police. what is your take? >> first of all, the whole idea behind the affidavit was to put sufficient evidence in order to get an arrest warrant. the police are not in the business of putting any more fat on that warrant than they need to. only to satisfy the judge. you know, i have signed him as a judge and also as a d.a. this is not a discovery tool. this is the minimal amount that they have to show us now. having said that, why did she wait eight hours? people are saying he didn't see her. she came eyeball to eyeball with that guy. the latent footprint, the blood that comes out of these stabbings, there will be a footprint and blood and there was in front of her door on the

way out to the sliding glass door, this young girl -- she's a young girl. she sees a guy dressed in black, nose, mouth covered. i'm sure he's got a hood on as well. she sees just bushy eyebrows and i'm telling you as sure as i'm sitting here, he has blood all over him, martha. they're not talking about i'm. he has a knife with him probably blood all over it and blood dripping from it. this is the kind of thing. you go to a movie and this frightens you. she's put together why she opened her door three times. once she thought she heard something. second she thought she heard crying. and then a man said it's okay, i'll help you. she hears real crying. 50 feet away from a video with a car taking off, they hear a thud. it was so loud, you know she heard that thud. this girl is petrified.

i wasn't there. i don't know. we can't put the burden on a young girl like this to say hey, hop to it. you should have called police right away. i'm sure she was frozen in fear. she said she was frozen. >> martha: it makes the most sense given what has happened in that home. the other thing that strikes me, and i don't know if this reporting is correct. they called friends from the fraternity before they called the police. >> we don't know whether that is true. >> martha: that's not in this affidavit. thatter isly reporting that may or may not be correct. >> we don't know whether that is true. one of the things i gleaned from this, he took the long route home. he took the long route because he was covered in blood. because he had a knife. he had to get rid of the knife and his clothing. where did he get rid of it? we don't know. right now that military sheath, the button on the knife sheath and matching it to his father's

dna and now i guarantee you, they have one onone dna puts him at the crime scene. this is looking like a solid case. but these guys are pros. i love these cops. you know why? they could care less what anybody says about them. >> martha: in the beginning, we were all skeptical what was going on. we talked to family members that were upset they were not hearing more. sounds like a number of things have come together. makes you nervous having covered a lot of cases and you being personally involved in prosecuting them, like o.j., right? the weapons are gone, the clothing is gone and there's a route from the crime scene back home. will we ever see those things? >> we may not. you know what? we don't need to see those. there may be sufficient evidence to prove to people beyond a reasonable doubt -- o.j. was a political case. this case is stronger than we

even know right now. kohberger, we he did it, people want to know why. remember one thing. the job of the prosecutor and the police is not to prove motive. our job is to prove did he do it,did he violate the elements of the offense. leopold and lobe, two criminalology students at the university of chicago, very wealthy, kidnapped a kid because they wanted to know what it was like to kill somebody. they kidnapped a 14-year-old and killed him. very famous case, this guy is like that, i think. who knows. >> martha: fascinating and chilling and things we'll never know fall in the category of why he decided not to kill the two young women downstairs especially when he may have been eyeball to eyeball with them. why did he leigh that witness there? she identified the tall guy, the height is one of the corroborating factors that goes into the affidavit. it's a stunning story. we're following it closely. >> we will be for a long time.

>> martha: thanks. we'll see you on "the five." lawrence jones also on this story for some time. he's at the jail where the suspect is being held without bail in moscow, idaho. he's the host of "cross-country" and we look forward to his reporting this weekend and first here. hi, lawrence. >> hi, martha. the judge was very astute with her analysis there. i think that you know, action she said, with these probable cause affidavits, you just fled to get the arrest. we'll hear more as it's presented in front of a judge. i will caution people. what we know right now, it's not an open and shut case. we're dealing with a criminalology students that was very careful. but he made a lot of mistakes as well at the crime scene. as the judge knows, he left that laden printed there. there's another aspect up to this was the fact that he returned back to the crime

scene. i think that has to do a lot with him leaving that -- the covering for the knife there on the crime scene. his phone goes off and he comes back to the crime scene. there's a lot to digest here. i wouldn't just say this is an open and shut case. we still got a long road ahead. >> martha: lawrence, i'm looking at this suspect. just thinking about if indeed he's the perpetrator of this crime and it appear as lot of evidence goes in that direction, this is a sick, sick individual. the havoc wrought on these families and this town, what can you tell us about where they are at this point with all of this? >> this town is not used to this type of drama happening. the last murder was in 2015, this is a town that doesn't normally look their doors. the lock smith in town has had a flood of individuals requesting

for the luxe to be put on their doors. the public has to prepare themselves for the type of guy that this guy is. he's very arrogant. as you've seen he's public postings talking about soliciting different information from criminals about how they committed the crime, what was going through their head. we've heard comment in the jail that said have you caught someone else involved in this crime? also, it's hard for me. i got the information before he was released in the affidavit. we decided not to release it to the public because we did not know if it was true or not. police, we didn't want to put the victim at risk. we heard about the young lady that was there that said she saw him in a mask. just be prepared for the defense to rip her apart. she shouldn't have to go through that. that is a part of our judicial system. they're going to ask why she went to sleep for eight hours more after saying she saw the suspect. it's going to be troubling.

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>> martha: a good day for the dow jones. up 760 points on this friday afternoon. all three of the major markets rallying after the december jobs reports show wages rose less than expected. gave wall street hope that the

fed might ease up on rate hikes as it tries to slow down inflation. earlier this week, alan greenspan warning that we're probably still in for at least a mild recession and the top economist to j.p. morgan said this. >> we are expecting the economy to slip in to a recession by the end of the year. just due to the fact that the tightening and financial conditions that the fed has engineered here as well as the additional rate hikes that they're signalling. >> martha: jared bernstein joins me now. good to have you with us, sir. welcome this afternoon. >> thank you. >> martha: you said in december that recession is not inevitable. we hear from alan greenspan and j.p. morgan that they think it is inevitable. have you changed your mind? >> no. i like where i am on that over under better than where they are. we're talking about an unemployment rate of 3.5%. that is close to a 50-year low.

we're looking at job gains in december, the president's second year in office. 4.5 million. that's the second highest year of job gains. >> martha: that was after a pandemic that saw millions of jobs lost. so you would expect that. >> right. but the numbers that i'm giving you, martha, are wholly inconsistent with a recessionary call in near time. if you look at gdp growth rates, they've been positive over the second half of the year. if you look at consumer spending, household balance sheets, a lot of strength in this economy. a lot of momentum. if you think about our 2023 agenda, implementing the infrastructure law, the inflation reduction act. that is more investment in america and working families to come. so we look where we are, we like the momentum. >> what about the tech lay-offs that are mounting across the board in that industry. isn't that part of the design of

these fed hikes that companies will sort of restrain and will lay people off as part of the plan, right? >> certainly the plan as the fed themselves have articulated is to slow the economy down. that is important and it's occurring. we're slowing down to a more steady stable and if you think about the implementation of clean energy and environmental legislation a more sustainable 2023. but slowing down to our -- in our expectation is a matter of settling to more steady stable growth. the fed has talked about the fact that we have millions of job vacancies. we can start cutting away at those. we've seen some declines there without cutting into employment itself. again, 223,000 jobs in december. that is a very strong number. >> yeah, i mean but at the same time, we have companies cutting. those numbers are expected to

increase according to a lot of economists out there. >> complete me speak to that. that's a great point. so here's the thing. there's a lot of churn in this economy. not only do we have company cutting, like tech firms that there was bloated employment but given the fact that there's hover 10 million vacancies, unfilled jobs out there, many folks are finding jobs and good jobs pretty quickly. even people that have jobs are upgrading their employment. we're seeing that in the quit rates, getting better jobs. that is the kind of upward mobility, upward opportunity that is absolutely key to bidenomics. you don't get there without this kind of labor market. the president's economic plan is unfolding in ways that are i think extremely helpful to working americans. >> martha: this is dan everhart, canary ceo talking about what he calls the biden economic boondoggle of -- ending the

excel -- the keystone xl pipeline. let's watch this. >> i think it's an economic boondoggle. america needs clean cheap energy. the fact of the matter this pipeline would have created jobs here and helped our energy security, strengthened our alliance with canada and given us the ability to have more plentiful, cheaper energy. >> martha: what do you say to him? >> i say -- one number to start with. negative 8.6%. let's call that negative 9% to keep it simple. that is the decline and price of retail gas over the month of december. that is real breathing ram at the pump, a 30 cent per gallon decline. that follows on months and month of decline in retail gas prices that peaked in over $5 a gallon in mid june of last year. the president has been acutely

aware of the stressor that energy costs means for working families. he got to work with release of oil from the strategic reserves, continues to work with our allies, with the russian price cap. keeping -- >> martha: will he be replacing the strategic petroleum reserves at that price? >> probably that kind -- he cited a price of around $70 a barrel for replacement. that has been the price of wti oil recently. that replacement probably would occur at some point. by the way, that means every barrel, which we sold at about $96 a barrel, we buy at 70 to replenish. that's a great break for the american taxpayer. >> martha: what about -- one of the big debates going on in congress is coming from conservatives that want to see spending cuts. we've seen the absolute opposite. you know a lot of people are very upset about this 1.7

trillion omnibus that got pushed through in the late hours before christmas. you also see reports that people in certain states across the country, you know, on benefits alone can make over $100,000. they'll decided it's more beneficial because of the benefits not to go back to work. >> yeah, i'm not really sure where that is coming from. we know that the vast majority of the benefits from the rescue plan, unemployment insurance, obviously checks to households, those are well behind us. i think the right way to look at this is to aggregate it up and look at the budget deficit. it's down 1.7 trillion since this president took office. that is fy-21 and fy-22. we'll have more to talk about this year. there's no question that the rolling off of the rescue plan as well as the strength in the economy, that is its not just less spending that has helped drive that deficit reduction, it's more revenues from the strong labor market, the strong economy that has helped the

treasury's coffers. >> martha: we still have a lot of folks including alan greenspan telling people to brace for recession in 2023. we're seeing it in the markets as well. we -- >> we're not seeing it in the data flow. that is what is most important to us. >> martha: depends which data you're looking at. thanks, jared. good to have you here today. so this is another story that we are watching really closely. thank god there's good news for damar hamlin today. the buffalo bills will honor their safety, damar hamlin, during this sunday's game by wearing a special number 3 patch on their jerseys as the bills head coach described how "amazing" it was for hamlin to face time with his teammates earlier this afternoon after doctors were able to remove his breathing tube. >> to see the players' reaction, they stood up right away and clapped for him. you know, yelled some things to

him. it was a pretty cool exchange for a few seconds there. he made hand signals, hand gestures. the thing that makes me laugh is he did this to the guys right away. >> martha: amazing. with that, we bring in fox news contributor, jim gray, from podcast "let's go." this is an extraordinary development. he has a long way to go. when people watched him on that field on monday night, i don't think anybody thought that on friday we would be where we are. >> martha: i think you're right, martha. what great news for the end of the week. it has gotten better. thank god for this development and for those first reresponsibilitieders and those people on the field that deserve so much credit. the bills training staff, the people in cincinnati, the cincinnati hospital and everybody who attended to him immediately. to have him flex his muscles and give the heart sign to teammates

and he said according to sean mcdermott, love you boys. that has to be uplifting for everybody in buffalo, everybody in cincinnati and football fans around the world. >> martha: i love the story about the doctor said when he spoke, he said "did we win". he said you won the game of life, my friend. you know, you see these are the great moments in many ways, jim, even though this started with this devastating moment, right? we saw -- one of the things that broke my heart on monday night is watching his teammates and how anguished they were. these are young men. they are very close. they live like a family. they practice together every day. and you could see the heart break and the anguish and the support that they gave each other. so to see them now pulling him through and him knowledgeable as the prayers that have been sent his way says a lot about that game of football that i think people don't always see through

the criticism. >> i think you're right. there's a brotherhood here. they want to win and they want to win badly. look at how the bills came together and look at the cincinnati bengals. there was more than tremendous concern. there was distraught. guys out there on the field and people watching the same. all of his opponents across the league. it's a brotherhood. there's 2,300 or 2,400 football players that can understand this in the national football league. they put themselves out on the line every week. usually it's a broken hand, a torn acl a head injury, concussion. but never somebody that collapses. cardiac arrest during the game. so for them to all-come together. we see everybody uniting in tragedy. we have also seen it in how cities and municipalities and countries come together, whether it's the olympics or argentina winning a world cup or a football team down in tampa and the parades. you see how sports can unite. this was a unifying moment

although it was a tragic moment. >> martha: what do you say this is another example of the violence that exists in this game and, you know, calls for major changes? >> that's not what football is. football is a game of risks. there's a risk that these young men take when they sign their contracts, when they sign up to play professional basketball. it's on the back of every helmet. every time they put on their helmet, there's a risk. they know the risks. nobody is forcing them to play football and nobody is forcing them to watch football. if you don't like it, don't play. if you don't want to put your kids in to it, don't. if you don't want to watch it, switch the channel. they've had a lot of rule changes for head injuries, they made the helmets better, protecting the quarterback. i don't think you'll see any more drastic changes in professional football. >> martha: our hearts and our thoughts are with damar hamlin and his family.

we're so thrilled about his progress so far. we hope he continues to get better. jim, thank you. always good to see you. thanks for being here. happy new year to you. >> thanks for having me on. >> martha: this week's untold story podcast, i discuss the story battle for speaker of the house playing out with james freeman from the "wall street journal." it's at foxnewspot cast.com. see you back here monday. >> harris, mccarthy. [applause] >> neil: andy harris, the maryland republican, part of the no to kevin mccarthy getting the speakership voted yes. that leaves at this point, kevin mccarthy with 214 votes in the latest go round. 13 voting rounds we have had. he is at 2